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Trizek (WMF) (diskusijadevums)

Hello

I got the link about this discussion, where you mention that Flow should be disabled.

The answer is "yes it should"! :) The Wikimedia Foundation is working on depreciating some features that cost a lot to be maintained while they have no future. Flow is one of them.

I invite you to archive this Flow page as a sub-page, so that traffic on it will decrease. Your talk page would then be a regular talk page.

Pretty soon, we will move all existing Flow pages to sub-pages, and then lock them so that users can't post new topics or replies. In the future, all existing pages will be converted to wikitext, and the Flow extension be removed.

Would you also help in archiving the two other Flow pages that exist at your wiki?

Thank you!

Edgars2007 (diskusijadevums)

Hi!

I get an User does not have the "Create Structured Discussions boards in any location" permission error, when moving to User talk:Edgars2007/Arhīvs9

Edgars2007 (diskusijadevums)

about remaining two Flow pages:

I don't mind if you do whatever you or WMF needs to do with those pages.

Trizek (WMF) (diskusijadevums)

Hi!

Error messages like these are one of the many reasons why we decided to stop the mess and remove this extension.

I can move these pages, including your talk page. With luck, I won't get an error message.

Edgars2007 (diskusijadevums)

May the force be with you :) Yes, you can move all three pages to any suitable names (for this page "Arhīvs9" for subpage will be appreciated). Thanks!

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Samwalton9 (diskusijadevums)

Hi Edgars2007 - great to chat with you earlier :) Here are the links about Automoderator - Extension:AutoModerator/Deploying and Moderator Tools/Automoderator/Testing. When I'm back at work I'll see if we can get an lv.wiki testing dataset. Unfortunately I have just noticed that lv.wiki is currently still using Flow. Automoderator doesn't support Flow at the moment, so we'll need to wait until it is turned off at lv.wiki before Automoderator can be enabled. That's OK though - I still encourage you to work on community consensus and filing the Phabricator ticket, and we can be making progress on getting set up before Flow is disabled.

Edgars2007 (diskusijadevums)

Hi! Thanks for the links. Might I ask how Flow is a blocker for Automoderator?

Samwalton9 (WMF) (diskusijadevums)

One of the features is that when a user is reverted, they receive a talk page message telling them what happened and pointing them to the false positive reporting page, in case it was an error. Because Flow is being turned off we didn't develop Flow support for this, so only normal talk page messages are supported.

Edgars2007 (diskusijadevums)

The one question I missed to ask - what's the moderator workflow (I thought that the message with link to false positives goes into revert edit summary) :) If you don't have a hardcoded check for flow ("if wiki has flow, then don't run on this wiki"), it could be fine - this should be the only page with Flow enabled, but I also would understand that you simply don't want to deploy to wiki with Flow enabled - maybe it's time to disable it here.

Samwalton9 (WMF) (diskusijadevums)

Ah - I've just seen in T350073 that lv.wiki only has 3 Flow boards. I assumed that because your talk page was using Flow that it was widespread, but I guess it's one of the only ones! Let me check with my team if this will cause a problem.

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